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Today I did some very basic grocery shopping. I bought mostly vegetables because I was baking chicken for dinner for my roommates tonight. Anyway, I am at the checkout isle, I pay for my produce. I look down the conveyor belt and see seven bags. SEVEN bags for one day's worth of veggies! I bought broccoli, grapes, two cucumbers, lettus, mushrooms, asparagus, eggs, four apples, milk, and OJ. I almost had a bag for each individual item. On top of that, the bagger-lady double bagged the grapes, lettus, and shrooms.

I was mad, but I didn't want to make a scene, so I left the store without commenting on this neurotic activity. I carted everything to my car and drove. I was just wondering to myself if each individual item I bought required it's own bag. They do not.

It may seem inane to comment on how my groceries were bagged, but the reason I am so aggravated is because I believe the environment is is dire straights. Oh Hell...the environment is in dire straights. Plastics take thousands of years to biodegrade into the environment. In fact, the plastic bags I am talking about were banned in India, and a few other middle-eastern countries, because of their hugely negative environmental impact. Plastic grocery bags clogged some vital parts of a drainage system in India, and flooding misplaced over a million people sometime in the late 1990s. The reason I talk about plastic bags is because, yet again, something as innocuous that humans use on a daily basis just seems to really fuck shit up for our planet.

Do people even realize that our lifestyles are ultimately hurting us? Our "I-don't-give-a-shit" attitude may affect us now, but it will definately affect our children in the very near future. In this day and age with what we know it burns me to know that some clueless lady who bags my groceries was so careless to waste the number of plastic bags she did. She didn't even ask me if I wanted individual bags for my produce items.

Why do grocery stores feel the need to bag groceries in this fashion? It does not matter why, really. The next time I go grocery shopping, I will tell the bagger to not get carried away with this neurotic need to bag everything individually. Or, I could ask for paper.





Moderation, people.
~~N
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From:epeolatry
Date:April 26th, 2007 01:39 am (UTC)
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instead of going off on the baggers, take your own bag. :)
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From:sarx_phagos
Date:April 26th, 2007 01:51 am (UTC)

well now

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That, my friend is a great idea. I've done that in Maine, but I stopped when I moved to IL. The grocery stores in ME gave a 5› refund for each bag to your grocery purchase when you brought your own bags. As far as I know, no store does that here.~~N
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From:dirtynumbangel
Date:April 26th, 2007 01:48 am (UTC)
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...he says, typing on a computer that's made of plastic, mined metals, and seriously toxic compounds.

Irony.

Not that I disagree with you, but...well...do something? Get a reusable bag for the grocery store, for starters.
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From:sarx_phagos
Date:April 26th, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)

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What will happen to this computer when it breaks? It will be recycled. In fact, it is the law in my part of Illinois that computer components have to be recycled. There is no law that forces municipalities to recycle plastic bags.

There is a huge distinction between the argument you pose because of the laws in this part of the country. Also, there is a huge distinction between the idea of recycling a computer versus recycling the meager plastic bag.

How many bags do you think people think of recycling? Chances are, they probably don't think about recycling those plastic bags at all. So all those plastic bags just blow in the breeze basically stick around for a couple thousand years.

You also bring up a valid point about all the "mined metals." Metals are becoming just as difficult to find as crude oil, so expect to be paying through the nose for items that are high in metal alloys, like cars...and just about any other piece of technology you could think of.~~N
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From:evil_admiral
Date:April 26th, 2007 01:51 am (UTC)
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Speaking as a former Kroger cashier, that's not what I was trained to do at least. I mean if veggies (like green onions) aren't in their own bag, you'll just put them with the rest of the veggies and fruits, unbagged or not. Veggies with veggies/fruits, meats in seperate bags, heavies in seperate bags, and pack everything else as tightly and efficiently as possible.

Secondly, most grocers advise against double-bagging unless you are dealing with an extremely messy item (like a leaking package of ground beef), or an item heavy enough that it will go straight through one bag (such as a 6-pack of beer, wine, kitty litter, laundry detergent, etc...).

Oh, and don't forget: Have you seen B.O.B. at the check-out? =P
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From:sarx_phagos
Date:April 26th, 2007 02:05 am (UTC)

maybe....

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Well, maybe you should educate that lady who bagged my groceries. I should have taken a picture because I cannot convey how wasteful it was. My veggies practically had their own bag. Was it necessary for that lady to double-bag my lettus? No. Was it necessary to have my grapes double-bagged by themselves? No. This situation is aggravating.~~Nick
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From:stephenissocool
Date:April 26th, 2007 07:50 pm (UTC)
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My partner/husband/whatever worked at a Fresh Market for a while during his school years. You'd be surprised how many Kroger employees don't know how to bag. Well, at least how many in the Atlanta area don't know the intricate nature of bagging.

And while I'm sure it's insanely obvious and I'm just slow, what in the Hades does B.O.B. mean? Those stickers piss me off every time I can't figure it out.
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From:evil_admiral
Date:April 27th, 2007 12:47 am (UTC)
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You'd be surprised how many Kroger employees don't know how to bag.

Well what do you expect of a position where the average bagger sticks around for only a few weeks?

And while I'm sure it's insanely obvious and I'm just slow, what in the Hades does B.O.B. mean?

It means "bottom of bascart", so the stickers are basically asking if you have checked the bottom of your cart. The stickers themselves are a means of inventory control to show the items on the bottom of your cart have been paid for.

BTW, how do you know Jye (starsfellonme)?
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From:sapphorlando
Date:April 26th, 2007 02:13 am (UTC)
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At the risk of sounding like a nitpicking jerk, LiveJournal's posting engine has a spellchecking feature that you might find useful. Your arguments will be more persuasive if they evidence care in composition. Sloppy writing makes you less convincing, and your argument less compelling.

All that said, I couldn't agree more that our society is far too obsessed with plastic bags. Before plastic bags, paper was used, and we never went as crazy with that, partly because they're more costly than plastic. Economics definitely has a huge role in this. Many environmentally damaging 'disposable' products in our society exist in abundance because they are cheap.
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From:sarx_phagos
Date:April 26th, 2007 02:23 am (UTC)

educashun

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Oh no! I grammer'd sumthign wrung on the interwebz.

Now that is out of my system, I do know about the spell-check LJ has. It is horribly inefficient. Even Yahoo Mail is better in that department than LJ.

Regarding the paper versus plastic argument, I really don't think it is an "obsession" about plastic bags, I think it is a laissez-fair attitude that is a bigger concern. I guess the point I am trying to make about my original post is that people really need to wake the fuck up and start thinking the world around them and how their actions affect their neighbors.~~N
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From:marmaladious
Date:April 26th, 2007 02:29 am (UTC)
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"Can you un-masturbate to someone?"

It's worth looking into.

I'd love to see the end of the world, honestly. Not because of my opinions, or environmental or political standings. It's basically the same reason why I'm always one of the last people at the party. I don't want to leave in the middle of it. And I'd hate to die in the middle of this long reign of humanity.

I think I'll go post that.
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From:sarx_phagos
Date:April 26th, 2007 02:43 am (UTC)

wishes

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Well, if humanity keeps fucking up the way it has always done, your wish will come true quicker then you think.~~N
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From:marmaladious
Date:April 26th, 2007 02:46 am (UTC)

Re: wishes

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I hear that.
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From:stephenissocool
Date:April 26th, 2007 07:57 pm (UTC)
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I'm a bit surprised that the U of I area hasn't jumped on the reusable bag bandwagon. Atlanta has. And we're in the south.

Although now I'm picturing this scenario of you bringing your own bag to (insert name of grocery store here. Aldi? IGA? Kroger?) and them putting things in their plastic bags, then inserting said bags into yours. While wasteful, it would make me laugh for a good few minutes.
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From:cosmicjester
Date:April 27th, 2007 08:08 am (UTC)
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The worst offender is easily Wal-Mart. Yeah, I know, like we need any more ammo against them, but hey why not? Sometimes it seems like I get more bags than items from them. Buying just one item? It goes in the bag, they don't even ask! Now if only I could find a 24 hour grocery store that isn't Wal-Mart and doesn't have those goddamn member cards. But the member cards are a whole different rant just waiting to happen.

My favorite company on the bag issue is IKEA. They recently started charging a nickel per bag, and the entire nickel goes to conservation efforts. Or, you can buy one of their handy reusable (and might I add FREAKING HUGE) blue tarp bags for 59 cents. I've had one of their Big Blue Bags swallow up an entire cartful of groceries before, they're amazing.
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From:sarx_phagos
Date:April 27th, 2007 07:35 pm (UTC)
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There is a grocery chain in the North East called "Shop & Save." They would actually pay the shopper 5 cents for every reusable bag they used to bag their groceries. Granted, the payback would be less than 1% if the grocery bill was over $100, but I guess it is the idea that counts.

Yeah...WTF is up with those goddamn member cards? It almost seems like that grocery store will mark up to mark down -- you don't get the savings unless you have their card. Hmm...~~Nick
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From:cosmicjester
Date:April 27th, 2007 08:34 pm (UTC)
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You're exactly right. I'd rather they just fire the part of the marketing department that came up with those things, and pass those savings on to us. Thankfully, I find the shopping experience generally better at places that don't have the cards. If you have a Super Target anywhere near you, go shopping there; they don't have the cards, the prices are great, and the Archer Farms store brand stands head and shoulders above everyone else's stuff.
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